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	<title>Comments on: Skype vs. Gizmo Project</title>
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		<title>By: Eugene</title>
		<link>http://www.randomthink.net/blog/2005/07/08/skype-vs-gizmo-project#comment-1114</link>
		<dc:creator>Eugene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 14:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding  your last comment " lets a ton more people than five get together at once." You can have up to 50 people free conference using Skype at http://www.highspeedconferencing.com/. All calls form Skype are free and you can also have people calling from the landlines join.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding  your last comment &#8221; lets a ton more people than five get together at once.&#8221; You can have up to 50 people free conference using Skype at <a href="http://www.highspeedconferencing.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.highspeedconferencing.com/</a>. All calls form Skype are free and you can also have people calling from the landlines join.</p>
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		<title>By: levihello</title>
		<link>http://www.randomthink.net/blog/2005/07/08/skype-vs-gizmo-project#comment-1112</link>
		<dc:creator>levihello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 22:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have bith and price rules. GP is half skype. skype has the extras but cost is alot...thr call fwding  is abig future drawas many folk wanna fwd to their cells all incoming skype or GP calls.This still is in the hands of telefon companies.but if GP or skype gets the cost down itll bethe winner as most people are answering voip at thepc when home but don have wifi everywhere nor have wifi cells. a cheap fwd is a plus. As well a cheapway to use a nonwifi cell toget into ones voip beit GP or skype..I use my own skype in number as a gateway..but to receive calls?a big problem</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have bith and price rules. GP is half skype. skype has the extras but cost is alot&#8230;thr call fwding  is abig future drawas many folk wanna fwd to their cells all incoming skype or GP calls.This still is in the hands of telefon companies.but if GP or skype gets the cost down itll bethe winner as most people are answering voip at thepc when home but don have wifi everywhere nor have wifi cells. a cheap fwd is a plus. As well a cheapway to use a nonwifi cell toget into ones voip beit GP or skype..I use my own skype in number as a gateway..but to receive calls?a big problem</p>
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		<title>By: Fabricio Murta</title>
		<link>http://www.randomthink.net/blog/2005/07/08/skype-vs-gizmo-project#comment-1113</link>
		<dc:creator>Fabricio Murta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 22:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh, have anyone here heard about iParty? I used that in the late 90's. Not for land/cell calls -- only a p2p voice caller, which works much like a walk-talk (you press ctrl to buffer your message). It was done exclusively for masses talking (based on conference with both written and spoken chat.

Btw, I use gizmo to call my father on my home city. I can spend a two 30-minute long distance call each day. Kinda great. for free. (despite the work my father had to set it up in his computer). I'll give a try to that voip buster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, have anyone here heard about iParty? I used that in the late 90&#8217;s. Not for land/cell calls &#8212; only a p2p voice caller, which works much like a walk-talk (you press ctrl to buffer your message). It was done exclusively for masses talking (based on conference with both written and spoken chat.</p>
<p>Btw, I use gizmo to call my father on my home city. I can spend a two 30-minute long distance call each day. Kinda great. for free. (despite the work my father had to set it up in his computer). I&#8217;ll give a try to that voip buster.</p>
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		<title>By: Boris</title>
		<link>http://www.randomthink.net/blog/2005/07/08/skype-vs-gizmo-project#comment-1106</link>
		<dc:creator>Boris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2006 20:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite="you state Gizmo is a P2P VOIP client, it isn’t. It is SIP. SIP based P2P isn’t ready yet"&gt;

SIP allows direct IP calls. Just dial sip:xxxxx@ipaddress:port&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
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<p>SIP allows direct IP calls. Just dial sip:xxxxx@ipaddress:port</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://www.randomthink.net/blog/2005/07/08/skype-vs-gizmo-project#comment-1105</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Sep 2006 09:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think skype has a great price on callin but gizmo offers free callin if u use the gateway. call a gateway near you then dial your pals sip number and voila!!. fo business its a bitcruel ans skypes one numver at 30 a yr is ok but free gizmo callin is great for most folks. Also from europe call out to the states is half price at gizmo...I think the onl thing missing is a local number to callvia cell to get into ones callout or net to net calls.one big problem  is calout via cellwith no wifi.I suffested to boh setting up a national or loccl number thats a gateway to sktpe or gizmo.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think skype has a great price on callin but gizmo offers free callin if u use the gateway. call a gateway near you then dial your pals sip number and voila!!. fo business its a bitcruel ans skypes one numver at 30 a yr is ok but free gizmo callin is great for most folks. Also from europe call out to the states is half price at gizmo&#8230;I think the onl thing missing is a local number to callvia cell to get into ones callout or net to net calls.one big problem  is calout via cellwith no wifi.I suffested to boh setting up a national or loccl number thats a gateway to sktpe or gizmo&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie</title>
		<link>http://www.randomthink.net/blog/2005/07/08/skype-vs-gizmo-project#comment-1104</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2006 11:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you state Gizmo is a P2P VOIP client, it isn't.  It is SIP. SIP based P2P isn't ready yet</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you state Gizmo is a P2P VOIP client, it isn&#8217;t.  It is SIP. SIP based P2P isn&#8217;t ready yet</p>
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		<title>By: Moritz</title>
		<link>http://www.randomthink.net/blog/2005/07/08/skype-vs-gizmo-project#comment-1103</link>
		<dc:creator>Moritz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Mar 2006 10:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just want to add this: the Gizmo Project technology is open source and relies on SIP communications and XMPP. It can benefit from constant developments of other open source project as Jabber, OpenWengo (Wengo's sister project), Jabbin for example. Maybe it could also peer-to-peer SIP technologies.

On the other hand, Skype with its proprietary code needs to do every thing on its own. From the version 1.0 to 2.0, no many functionalities appeared besides the video feature. I guess they will need to harmonize with the SIP protocol, which tends to emerge as the VoIP standard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just want to add this: the Gizmo Project technology is open source and relies on SIP communications and XMPP. It can benefit from constant developments of other open source project as Jabber, OpenWengo (Wengo&#8217;s sister project), Jabbin for example. Maybe it could also peer-to-peer SIP technologies.</p>
<p>On the other hand, Skype with its proprietary code needs to do every thing on its own. From the version 1.0 to 2.0, no many functionalities appeared besides the video feature. I guess they will need to harmonize with the SIP protocol, which tends to emerge as the VoIP standard.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://www.randomthink.net/blog/2005/07/08/skype-vs-gizmo-project#comment-1102</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2006 18:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it posible to use skype through a cell phone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it posible to use skype through a cell phone?</p>
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		<title>By: Dan K</title>
		<link>http://www.randomthink.net/blog/2005/07/08/skype-vs-gizmo-project#comment-1101</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Feb 2006 16:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used Skype for the mac for about 6 weeks. The Sound sucks on both ends. I thought it might be me firewall so I turend off my firewall on the mac and the router. It still sounds like crap. I am visting out of state and have tried it on a diffrent mac. Sound is still bad. I got Gizmo and it works great!  I will not be useing Skype. Gizmo sound is better then my cell phone and Skype is like talking in a tin can.


Gizmo rocks!!!

Dan K</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used Skype for the mac for about 6 weeks. The Sound sucks on both ends. I thought it might be me firewall so I turend off my firewall on the mac and the router. It still sounds like crap. I am visting out of state and have tried it on a diffrent mac. Sound is still bad. I got Gizmo and it works great!  I will not be useing Skype. Gizmo sound is better then my cell phone and Skype is like talking in a tin can.</p>
<p>Gizmo rocks!!!</p>
<p>Dan K</p>
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		<title>By: Jorge</title>
		<link>http://www.randomthink.net/blog/2005/07/08/skype-vs-gizmo-project#comment-1100</link>
		<dc:creator>Jorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2006 07:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are comparing closed programs which are hardcoded to use only one network. That way you get the impression that you must enroll with them to make calls to regular phones.

You don't really have to be limited by that. You can get a SIPPhone account and a FWD account and a Wengo account, any account that best fits your needs (except of course Skype), and simultaneously register (go online) to them in a single configurable SIP client, or a few of them in one ATA.

For example, I deposited 10 USD in a "pay as you go" plan with teliax, simply because they offer the cheapest rates to Mexico (USD 0.02 to major cities in Mexico is really cheap). On top of that they don't charge full minutes if you use a few seconds after the first minute. I also have a free FWD account with an ipkall DID which got me a free US incoming number, which is very handy to get calls from cell phones in the US. There are also many local numbers listed in www.sipbroker.com which can be used to reach that FWD number.

While I get an adaptor (if I ever), I am using Twinkle, an open source Linux SIP client which registers to both teliax and FWD, so I don't need to switch programs to call and receive calls using the two different providers. Twinkle might not be very pretty, but it works.

There is a nicer looking interesting project: Ekiga, supporting video. Xten's X-lite is another easy to install softphone, although not open source.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are comparing closed programs which are hardcoded to use only one network. That way you get the impression that you must enroll with them to make calls to regular phones.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t really have to be limited by that. You can get a SIPPhone account and a FWD account and a Wengo account, any account that best fits your needs (except of course Skype), and simultaneously register (go online) to them in a single configurable SIP client, or a few of them in one ATA.</p>
<p>For example, I deposited 10 USD in a &#8220;pay as you go&#8221; plan with teliax, simply because they offer the cheapest rates to Mexico (USD 0.02 to major cities in Mexico is really cheap). On top of that they don&#8217;t charge full minutes if you use a few seconds after the first minute. I also have a free FWD account with an ipkall DID which got me a free US incoming number, which is very handy to get calls from cell phones in the US. There are also many local numbers listed in <a href="http://www.sipbroker.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.sipbroker.com</a> which can be used to reach that FWD number.</p>
<p>While I get an adaptor (if I ever), I am using Twinkle, an open source Linux SIP client which registers to both teliax and FWD, so I don&#8217;t need to switch programs to call and receive calls using the two different providers. Twinkle might not be very pretty, but it works.</p>
<p>There is a nicer looking interesting project: Ekiga, supporting video. Xten&#8217;s X-lite is another easy to install softphone, although not open source.</p>
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